Legendary Pokémon

Coolio. But, I think we be straying from the topic a bit.

something amusing back from the year 2000:

http://206.135.15.32/answers/apokemon.html Wrote:What Does the Bible Say About....

The Danger of the Pokemon Fascination

What is behind the fascination with the Pokemon phenomenon? Even though this fad is highly popular among the children today, some may not be really aware of what this game is all about. Children and parents alike may not realize the importance of choosing their games and toys with God's guidance. Some might argue that this is a small thing and as long as children are entertained it shouldn't matter what they are playing with. Even as the "little foxes" can spoil the entire grape vine, the games and toys our children embrace can be destructive for them. As parents, the Bible admonishes us to train our children in the right way.

Proverbs 22:6: "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it."

The question is, what is the right way and how do we know if something is right for our children or even us personally? In the case of Pokemon let us look at the "roots and fruits" of this game. The Bible tells us in Matthew 7 that we can recognize the tree by the fruit that it bears.

Matthew 7:17: "Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them."

We have a small orchard and this year we are going to have a "bumper crop" from all of our fruit trees, as the frost didn't freeze the blossoms in early Spring. Usually our apples, pears and grapes bloom out late so we always have those fruits. However, the plums, peaches and apricots usually don't make it before the freeze gets them. Just yesterday I was looking at all the trees and the small fruit that was on them and was surprised to find a tree that I thought was a plum all along that turned out to be a peach tree. Since they had not had any fruit for a number of years I did not know what kind they were until I saw the small fuzzy fruit on one of them and the shiny plums on another. In the same way it is difficult to discern the true nature of anything until we can see the fruit. Pokemon players are beginning to produce fruit that isn't good so we need to examine the tree and the root.

List of the Roots and Fruit of Pokemon

1.) First of all, its name describes what this game is about. Pokemon is short for "Pocket Monsters". When I was growing up, we were taught monsters were evil, not something to play with. When I was a little girl, the "boogie man" or monsters caused us fear and we did not want to be around them. This game makes some of its monsters out as friendly; thus causing children to embrace certain evil spirits as friends instead of resisting them. This is not the only game that does this as there are other games and books that trivialize or glamorize the occult as well. One of the most evil book series that children are reading at this hour are the Harry Potter books. These books are just as dangerous as the Pokemon games. The Harry Potter books have become a best selling series that chronicle the tales of an orphaned boy at a school for wizards. These books deal with the occult in a fantasy way. In the books you will find animal sacrifices, threats of human sacrifices, witchcraft, wizardry and divination as well as other evil things. For more information about the Harry Potter books click here:

2.) The game was created in Japan and the concepts of the game and trading cards reflect the principles of Eastern Religions and the philosophies that influenced them. Pokemon is the result of influences that are completely mystical and that embrace warrior religions. These belief systems are not compatible with Christianity.

Buddhist Mysticism
Hinduism
Meditation Rituals
The Egyptian Book of the Dead
The Book of Tao
The Analects of Confucius
The Gita
The I Ching
The Tibetan Book of the Dead
Shintoism

Shinto teaches that that all such natural features were felt to have a god behind their power. Many Shinto beliefs were incorporated into Japanese Buddhist practices after its introduction in the 6th century. Just as they believe in evolution and reincarnation, these ideas are manifest in Pokemon. To be specific, one of the typical examples of the dark side of Pokemon is a character named Haunter; an evolved spirit that can hypnotize and has "dream eater" power (powered by the purple Pokemon energy cards which is psychic energy). This power lets him drain the energy from his opponents. Kadabra is another Pokemon character who evolved from Abra. Both characters have demonic powers.

In Pokemon, the monsters actually die to their old self and evolve into the new, more powerful Pokemon. This is the teaching of eastern mystery religions and is spelled out in the Egyptian book of the dead and other occult religions. Through this children are subtly being indoctrinated into the theory of evolution and mysticism of the eastern religions.

3.) The maker of the Pokemon U. S. trading cards is the Seattle-based company, Wizards of the Coast, owner of the Dungeons and Dragons game and creator owner of a card game called Magic: The Gathering, which is played by an estimated 6 million people. Many of these preteens and teens are learned in the art of casting spells and summoning spirits. Hasbro, a toy company, bought Wizards of the Coast for $325 million. Nintendo introduced Pokemon to the children of America and spent $20 million on just the marketing. Nintendo has sold more than 14 million Pokemon-related video games according to a recent Family PC magazine review.¹ Wouldn't it be fair to ask what the real motive is for distributing these games? Sales of the Pokemon products have reached the $1 billion mark for Nintendo.

4.) Other philosophies are also evident in Pokemon and these are the demonstration of occultic powers in the games and cards. We also find the influences of New Age Cults, Wicca, Witchcraft, Paganism and Satanism in this game. In the practice of witchcraft, spirits are summoned and called to stay in a circle until needed to fight off bad spirits. In these practices they develop relationships with the so-called "good spirits" to fight the bad ones. This is totally against scripture as the only spirit we are to call on is the Holy Spirit to combat evil spirits with His Holy Angels. In essence these guardians or "spirit guides" that are used in Pokemon actually encourage children in the ways of witchcraft. In the Bible one of Israel's kings, Manasseh, was guilty of witchcraft and other sins and he was brought into bondage because of it.

2 Chronicles 33:6: "And he caused his children to pass through the fire in the valley of the son of Hinnom: also he observed times, and used enchantments, and used witchcraft, and dealt with a familiar spirit, and with wizards: he wrought much evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger."

5). The trading aspect of Pokemon is unhealthy for children too. This aspect has become addictive in many children. It is also creating bad feelings among friends. Some of the older children who are more knowledgeable play off the younger and less knowledgeable ones. When a child doesn't get the card they want, they feel bad; when they do get the card they want, they feel superior. This trading game is not fostering good Christian traits in children but rather greed, combativeness, extreme competitiveness and obsessiveness. Some children have been so completely obsessed with the game that's all they want to talk about and do. Family relationships have deteriorated and children no longer talk about themselves or others but rather about when they can make another trade. Some schools in the nation have even banned Pokemon from their schools when trading resulted in kids trading lunches, stealing back packs, and threatening bodily harm for deals gone bad.

6.) Some parents are also saying that they are concerned about disturbing behavior changes since their children started playing the Pokemon games. They are seeing their children fight and display anti-social skills instead of the proper ones. Instead of this game just being one of imaginative fun, it has become addictive and changed the emotional disposition of children. Some children even complain that they don't feel good after playing the game. Since it is a role playing game, some of the characters are not good and this opens the door for children to receive evil influences and even demonic invasion. Children can receive demon spirits by opening themselves up to the spirits behind Pokemon. When it was first released in Japan in 1997, it was reported that over 600 children went into epileptic seizures while watching the Pokemon cartoons. ² The epileptic seizures were said to be caused by the incessant flashing lights in the cartoon overloading the optical nerves and inciting seizure; however, seizures can also be caused by demonic attack.

This is not an exhaustive list by any means, but I have tried to condense the elements of danger for our children. Now, what can we do about it and what are our responsibilities as parents? First of all, parents and children should pray and ask the Lord for the truth about this game so He can reveal it to you. Many parents just buy the toys their children ask for just so they will be occupied (since many parents are too busy to spend quality time with their children). Parents, you must take a more active role in praying over and researching the toys, books and games before buying them for your children. Children, you must not partake in games that do not help you be a better Christian. You must refuse to go along with the latest fads when they are bad. How can we know if a game or toy is good or bad?


Determine if the game, video or book involves supernatural power. There are only two sources of super natural power -- God or the devil. When it is beyond the natural, it either comes from God or the devil. If it is not from God then we should not be partaking of it.


Children, ask yourself if this is the kind of game that makes you happy and improves your relationships with others. Parents, see if your child is growing in character via the games he plays or vice versa.


What kind of things are being learned via these books, games and videos. Remember our minds are molded by what we hear, read and partake of so we must guard our spirit. Psalm 101:3: "I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes: I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me."

If children have been involved for some time in these satanic games, they may need a prayer of deliverance prayed over them as sometimes the devil can have a stronghold in their lives. Finally any games, books or cards must be disposed of due to the addictive nature of these things. Remember we are in a battle and we must stand on God's Word to see our children protected and delivered from the influence of the wicked one. Their hearts, as well as our own, need to be guarded from all evil influences.

Philippians 4:8-9: "Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.9 Those things, which ye have both learned, and received, and heard, and seen in me, do: and the God of peace shall be with you".

Proverbs 4:23: "Keep thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life."

We encourage you not to let the seemingly little things, like helping choose your children's toys wisely, be a door for unwanted evil influences in their lives. Don't let this "little fox" destroy the minds and hearts of our children.

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End Notes:

¹Family Christian PC Magazine, July 2000 Issue, Reviews Section
²New Wine Online Website, July Posting, Pastor Brett Peterson

Editor's Note: We have an excellent book entitled, Turmoil in the Toy Box, that will help parents to understand the evil influences that have influenced toy makers and thus passed this on to our children. Remember unless the toy makers have character and a godly influence they are usually making and selling toys with just a profit in mind. Click here for order information at our Chapel Bookstore.

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You know, most of the above are just silly. But some are true, especially the parts about anti-social behavior, fights among friends and addiction. Not only about Pokémon, it's about most games today, Pokémon was just very popular back then. But we grew up playing and embracing every sort of video game, so we can't judge em οbgjectively. This is why I believe I can't just claim that all the above are "b^&#%t". And it'a always a matter of how you view it: some people consider it satanic, we see it as an awesome franchise, others reject it as a silly kids' game.


But seriously now, wtf? Pokémon is a Satan's tool to maniupilate children, really?

"If children have been involved for some time in these satanic games, they may need a prayer of deliverance prayed over them as sometimes the devil can have a stronghold in their lives. Finally any games, books or cards must be disposed of due to the addictive nature of these things. Remember we are in a battle and we must stand on God's Word to see our children protected and delivered from the influence of the wicked one. Their hearts, as well as our own, need to be guarded from all evil influences. "

Maybe what we all need is a good exorcism in order to stop worhsiping Lucifer through playing Pokémon. And I've been wondering why Santa Claus isn't visiting my house anymore....


"Determine if the game, video or book involves supernatural power. There are only two sources of super natural power -- God or the devil. When it is beyond the natural, it either comes from God or the devil. If it is not from God then we should not be partaking of it.
Children, ask yourself if this is the kind of game that makes you happy and improves your relationships with others. Parents, see if your child is growing in character via the games he plays or vice versa. "

All I need to know is that people who play Pokémon enjoy themselves. They can say whatever they want, but we are having a great time. And I guess not many people care whether this comes from the Devil, God or even the damn Great Galactic Spirit itself. My opinion is that it comes from the person itself, but that;s just my opinion.


Anyway, thanks Arty2 for posting this, since even though I disagree with almost all of them, it's a diferent opinion which can make us think about ours.

Wow.With this post and your other one on the other thread , you resemble a friend of mine so much.Anyway that's out of the subject , its people like these who give a bad name to Christianity.I say if they don't know much about it , they should not open their mouths at all.Even some of those so called christian things they say in there are wrong.Probably Catholics.

Thought I'd revive this thread by pointing out that many prodestants don't consider catholics to be christian.

(03-02-2012 02:52 AM)Giratina88 Wrote: [ -> ]Thought I'd revive this thread by pointing out that many prodestants don't consider catholics to be christian.

Well , same goes for orthodox Christians.

You know, its strange that there are so many different types of christians, yet only like 2 types of the other religions. It goes to show that other religions can at least get along within their own religion, but with christianity we have different groups fighting to the death on what they believe is their interpretation of some silly little book some guy wrote 2000 years ago and suddenly became so popular people treated it as a religion. In a way, it's kinda like Twilight...

orthodox = Ορθοδοξία = Ορθή Δόξα = Standard (literally glory but i think the word faith fits better so....) Faith. IOW The prototype. Before all this began , there was of course one type of christianity only , with no name. Just christianity. It Included everything that was writen down and some things that were just spoken of , or traditions. So annyway , one day i can't really remember when exactly the west church started adding and removing stuff that was not writen. Until the east church got fed up an said "You know what , no , you do your own thing , we'll just carry on believing what we originally believed" And that's when Christianity broke up in to two pieces: Catholics and Orthodox Christians. So annyway , another groop (How do you spell that? Anyway that does not matter right now) of Christians got fed up with the catholics rulles and decided to just go by what's writen only. Protestants. Annyway , IDK what happened after that , all i know is that all the other types started from Protestants and Catholics. Or at least as far as i know.

Anyway.........about that other thing you said......Well , look , we still don't have anny proof that anything like a god does not exist and Christianity does not say anything bad does it? And there is a posibility that all this might be true , as you said , why would christianity be the only religion that has so many branches and why is it so much more famus than the rest? There must be a reason , right? Annyway that's just my opinion......I'm just playing it safe. (although i am really malevolent and a really negative person )

And I respect your opinion. However we are starting to get off topic a little. Perhaps we need another controversy.

Hey, G88! Long time no see!
On the subject, I think that some controversy regards some episodes. Namely the BANNED episodes.

Righto. Like the one that was banned because a pokemon used earthquake and their were earthquakes in japan at the time.

(04-02-2012 04:18 AM)Giratina88 Wrote: [ -> ]Righto. Like the one that was banned because a pokemon used earthquake and their were earthquakes in japan at the time.

yeah that was a bit wrong wasn't it? I mean ok......

I see you're point.
And, hey! I haven't seen you in a while either!

And that holiday hi-jinx one as well...banned because of jinx's black color.

Mainly because people thought it was racist. I dislike racists.