Legendary Pokémon

Not really. I've never had to use a second controller. The built in is fine.

If it costs about 400-500 euros,then you have to think about it very carefully.
It's about the 2/3 of the salary in Greece (correct me if I'm wrong).
Also,if the games cost about 60-70 euros each,then about 460-570 euros will be needed.
But,of course,if you win the lottery,you can buy it without a doubt.
Just an advice.

Fanboys will be fanboys, whichever the field of battle:

http://www.macgasm.net/2013/02/21/apple-...time-over/ Wrote:Apple to Games Consoles: Your Time Is Over

Dear Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo.

You know that I loved you guys. I really did. There’s always been a space underneath my TV for your stuff. From the Sega MegaDrive through to the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, I’ve bought pretty much all of them. Heck, I even bought a Sega Saturn, although sadly I think that I was probably one of the handful of people who did.

But I think I’ve bought my last games console. The farcical press conference “unveiling” the next PlayStation – although it’s fair to ask if it’s an unveiling when there’s nothing physical unveiled – was just the last straw. Yes, I’m sure that the next Playstation will be incredibly powerful, leading to a glut of games which rely on the shock and awe effect of their visuals, rather than good gameplay.

And that will only be after two years, when the game developers have actually managed to get their heads around the unique and probably pretty difficult to understand architecture. In the meantime, there will probably be one good flagship title and a lot of mediocre retreads of old favourites.

This is where Apple comes in. Because at present, as long as you’re not a hardcore shoot-em-up addict, the best gaming platform out there is iOS. From Letterpress to Osmosis to one of the thousand tricky little throwaway games that cost next to nothing on the App Store, the iOS games market is creative, fun, full of new ideas – and for users, cheap. You don’t have to spend $50 on a game only to find that it’s a half-baked rip-off of something you played on the original Xbox years ago.

There’s just one little piece of the jigsaw missing: A way to play all these incredible games in the living room. Yes, you can use Airplay mirroring and an Apple TV to get your games on the big screen in the corner, but it’s an experience best described as… sub-optimal. But a faster, more powerful version of the same tiny black box could easily run iOS games all by itself, either with dedicated Bluetooth controllers – or using other iOS devices instead.

I know it’s coming. You know it’s coming – and I don’t for one second doubt that Sony, Microsoft and the rest know it’s coming too. Never mind getting the same old boring TV shows on the big screen – I want to play, to interact, to do crazy stuff. Not just sit back and watch the same old boring shows.

So sayonara Sony, goodbye Microsoft, and so long Nintendo. You guys were great. But there’s going to be a new player of games in town. And I’d much rather hitch my wagon to Apple than pay you yet more hundreds of dollars for a console with a handful of decent games (at indecent prices). Those days are over.

Love and kisses

Ian.

The apple tv for that would cost more than 2k. Nice try apple.

(Apple hater here)

"But a number of developers believe that team sizes and costs have remained pretty much flat when compared to the current PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360."

“We've also learned a thing or two in previous installments on the PlayStation 3. So it's not, in terms of the cost, it's not as scary as maybe some people have led you to believe.”


Hehe... pwned.

"Hardware creator and video game publisher Sony says that the titles that will be launched on the coming PlayStation 4 home console will have prices that range from free to 60 dollars or Euro, the same as for the current generation of devices from the company."




"Downloadable PS3 Games Could Be Played on PlayStation 4 via Cloud, Sony Says."

Oh-ho, at least can we can still play them. Oh Nintendo~ Preposterous.

(23-02-2013 07:24 AM)fr3quency Wrote: [ -> ]"But a number of developers believe that team sizes and costs have remained pretty much flat when compared to the current PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360."

“We've also learned a thing or two in previous installments on the PlayStation 3. So it's not, in terms of the cost, it's not as scary as maybe some people have led you to believe.”


Hehe... pwned.

"Hardware creator and video game publisher Sony says that the titles that will be launched on the coming PlayStation 4 home console will have prices that range from free to 60 dollars or Euro, the same as for the current generation of devices from the company."




"Downloadable PS3 Games Could Be Played on PlayStation 4 via Cloud, Sony Says."

Oh-ho, at least can we can still play them. Oh Nintendo~ Preposterous.

SHOCKING NEWS.

Streaming games, sure, sure, that's definately a latency every gamer loves to see.

It just seems like a way for them to pretty much control things more, not to mention make people only buy games digitally to reduce costs.

conslwhat?



i don't get fanboyism.

@kn412 only if they make cfw for the ps4 we'll be able to play pirated games

(24-02-2013 01:49 AM)Varg Wrote: [ -> ]It just seems like a way for them to pretty much control things more, not to mention make people only buy games digitally to reduce costs.

what you mean "make ppl only buy games digitally" sony didn't said anything about the games being only in digital form, well except ps1/2/3 games for the backwards compatibility via the gaikai system.

(24-02-2013 02:46 AM)Grim Ripper Wrote: [ -> ]what you mean "make ppl only buy games digitally" sony didn't said anything about the games being only in digital form, well except ps1/2/3 games for the backwards compatibility via the gaikai system.

It means that no cases/manuals/shipping means more profit, simply.
And I wouldn't reveal my strategy in their place, too.

(24-02-2013 09:31 PM)Varg Wrote: [ -> ]

(24-02-2013 02:46 AM)Grim Ripper Wrote: [ -> ]what you mean "make ppl only buy games digitally" sony didn't said anything about the games being only in digital form, well except ps1/2/3 games for the backwards compatibility via the gaikai system.

It means that no cases/manuals/shipping means more profit, simply.
And I wouldn't reveal my strategy in their place, too.

i know what you mean about the digital form, but sony didn't said anything about the ps4 games being only digital and definitely believe they won't be only in digital form.
The console will be changed in 7-8 years probably so if the games are in digital form only we'll need a really big HDD or many external hard disks.

Quote:but sony didn't said anything about the ps4 games being only digital

It's not like they would go around telling people to buy games digitally, that's why they're trying to forward it.

Quote:The console will be changed in 7-8 years probably so if the games are in digital form only we'll need a really big HDD or many external hard disks.

That's where the "streaming games" feature kicks in.

(25-02-2013 11:23 PM)Varg Wrote: [ -> ]

Quote:but sony didn't said anything about the ps4 games being only digital

It's not like they would go around telling people to buy games digitally, that's why they're trying to forward it.

Quote:The console will be changed in 7-8 years probably so if the games are in digital form only we'll need a really big HDD or many external hard disks.

That's where the "streaming games" feature kicks in.

Yeah but not many ppl want to be connected to the internet so they can play games on their console and what about the ppl with low internet speed, they won't be able to stream the games right, even if you download something from your pc and then stream a game on ps4 it would be really bad unless you have a really fast internet connection, something that we don't really have here in greece.

That's why playstation and nintendo are better

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