10-02-2007, 04:10 PM
11-02-2007, 07:50 PM
I just built a pretty strange UU team in Net Battle. I battled three times and beat two full OU teams so I decided to post it. So:
Qwilfish @ Leftovers
Poison Point
Jolly, 200 HP, 58 Def., 252 Speed
- Spikes
- Destiny Bond
- Sludge Bomb
- Substitute
The spiker. It has a nice speed, so if I can't set Spikes, I destroy my HP with Subs and then kill with DB. Sludge Bomb is nearly never used.
Altaria @ Leftovers
Natural Cure
Calm, 252 HP, 26 Def., 16 Speed, 216 Sp.Def.
- Toxic
- Rest
- Flamethrower
- Attract
The annoyer. Toxic and Attract (female Altaria) are perfect. Rest + Natural Cure combo. Flamethrower hits Steel-types, immune to Toxic.
Muk @ Leftovers (yeah, too many lefties)
Sticky Hold
Careful, 200 HP, 58 Atk., 252 Sp.Def.
- Curse
- Sludge Bomb
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Explosion
The physical sweeper AND the perfect Gengar counter. After Cursing 3 or 4 times it becomes unbeatable (an UU Snorlax). Sludge Bomb for STAB, HP Ghost for Gengar, Dusclops and the UU Shedinja. Explosion = death.
Banette @ Salac Berry
Insomnia
Adamant, 129 HP, 252 Atk., 129 Speed
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Will-O-Wisp
- Knock Off
Semi-sweeper, semi-annoyer. Wisping and Knocking Off leftovers is very fun. Shadow Ball and HP Fighting hit everything for at least neutral damage.
Flareon @ Liechi Berry
Flash Fire
Brave, 120 HP, 252 Atk., 138 Sp.Def.
- Shadow Ball
- Body Slam/Quick Attack
- Hidden Power [Fighting]/Curse
- Overheat/Baton Pass
Honestly, idk what this is supposed to be. I just like Flareon and decided to use it. So, either the moves on the left or the ones on the right. I prefer the left ones. If it's the right ones, Adamant instead of Brave. (This set sux, yay!)
Electabuzz @ Petaya Berry
Static
Modest, 6 HP, 252 Speed, 252 Sp.Atk.
- Thunderbolt
- Fire Punch
- Psychic
- Ice Punch
The special sweeper. All out attack set as always on Electabuzz. Idk why Smogon says this is an UU Pokémon. I think it rulez.
Yeah, that's it. Any suggestions?
Qwilfish @ Leftovers
Poison Point
Jolly, 200 HP, 58 Def., 252 Speed
- Spikes
- Destiny Bond
- Sludge Bomb
- Substitute
The spiker. It has a nice speed, so if I can't set Spikes, I destroy my HP with Subs and then kill with DB. Sludge Bomb is nearly never used.
Altaria @ Leftovers
Natural Cure
Calm, 252 HP, 26 Def., 16 Speed, 216 Sp.Def.
- Toxic
- Rest
- Flamethrower
- Attract
The annoyer. Toxic and Attract (female Altaria) are perfect. Rest + Natural Cure combo. Flamethrower hits Steel-types, immune to Toxic.
Muk @ Leftovers (yeah, too many lefties)
Sticky Hold
Careful, 200 HP, 58 Atk., 252 Sp.Def.
- Curse
- Sludge Bomb
- Hidden Power [Ghost]
- Explosion
The physical sweeper AND the perfect Gengar counter. After Cursing 3 or 4 times it becomes unbeatable (an UU Snorlax). Sludge Bomb for STAB, HP Ghost for Gengar, Dusclops and the UU Shedinja. Explosion = death.
Banette @ Salac Berry
Insomnia
Adamant, 129 HP, 252 Atk., 129 Speed
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Will-O-Wisp
- Knock Off
Semi-sweeper, semi-annoyer. Wisping and Knocking Off leftovers is very fun. Shadow Ball and HP Fighting hit everything for at least neutral damage.
Flareon @ Liechi Berry
Flash Fire
Brave, 120 HP, 252 Atk., 138 Sp.Def.
- Shadow Ball
- Body Slam/Quick Attack
- Hidden Power [Fighting]/Curse
- Overheat/Baton Pass
Honestly, idk what this is supposed to be. I just like Flareon and decided to use it. So, either the moves on the left or the ones on the right. I prefer the left ones. If it's the right ones, Adamant instead of Brave. (This set sux, yay!)
Electabuzz @ Petaya Berry
Static
Modest, 6 HP, 252 Speed, 252 Sp.Atk.
- Thunderbolt
- Fire Punch
- Psychic
- Ice Punch
The special sweeper. All out attack set as always on Electabuzz. Idk why Smogon says this is an UU Pokémon. I think it rulez.
Yeah, that's it. Any suggestions?
12-02-2007, 03:24 AM
Your team looks pretty good. I´m not with much time for analyzing it better, but I´ll give some suggestions, ok?
Qwilfish has a nice speed, but can be outrun... How about a Salac Berry? So you could use Subs + Salac + Destiny Bond. How about it?
If your Flareon is gonna have Overheat, use White Herb. So, you can use Overheat twice.
Qwilfish has a nice speed, but can be outrun... How about a Salac Berry? So you could use Subs + Salac + Destiny Bond. How about it?
If your Flareon is gonna have Overheat, use White Herb. So, you can use Overheat twice.

12-02-2007, 06:46 PM
Flareon without Curse is always a hit-n-run Pokémon so White Herb isn't needed that much. And about the Salac, I'll try it although I think that Lefties are better. I was also thinking of switching Banette's Knock Off to Thief so that it's funnier but idk, Knock Off seems to work better.
13-02-2007, 02:34 AM
I suggested White Herb because I thought you wouldn´t try Curse... you said that you prefer the left moves. Well, anyways, use White Herb only if you´ll use Overheat, but not Curse.
13-02-2007, 05:16 PM
That's what I said. If I don't Curse (if I use the left moves), Flareon is a hit-n-run sweeper. This means that if my stats are lowered, I am gonna switch out. Anyway, Overheat isn't there for hitting, just for scaring Skarmories not to set Spikes. If they decide to stay in, then comes Overheat.
03-06-2007, 06:48 AM
idlike to have someones opinoin on an electivire of mine:
electivire
jolly@ idk yet
ice punch( ground types)
thunder punch(stab)
earthquake(other elec.)
fire punch/ brick break
he's going to be the last spot of my team, wich for some reason still didnt have a good 6th pokemon. my other members of myteam are infernape, lucario, weavile, roserade, and togekiss.
electivire
jolly@ idk yet
ice punch( ground types)
thunder punch(stab)
earthquake(other elec.)
fire punch/ brick break
he's going to be the last spot of my team, wich for some reason still didnt have a good 6th pokemon. my other members of myteam are infernape, lucario, weavile, roserade, and togekiss.
03-06-2007, 10:38 AM
The best set imo is:
Electivire @ ?????
Adamant, 252 Atk, some in speed, rest in HP
- Earthquake
- Cross Chop
- Thunderpunch
- Ice Punch
Adamant over Jolly because you'll get the speed you need when you switch in on a Thunderbolt. All it needs is some prediction. I chose Thunderpunch over Rock Slide only because it kills Pokémon like Suicune and Milotic and they can't Mirror Coat it back now. Cross Chop over BB/Fire Punch for killing annoying Blisseys/Snorlaxes/Regices/T-tars + it has a high critical hit ratio.
As for an item, Choice Band/Scarf, Life Orb, Muscle Band and Expert Belt may be useful.
Edit: Can somebody suggest a fourth move for my Gyarados in Emerald? It knows DD, EQ and Return and I don't know what else to use. If it was NetBattle, I would use Taunt, but in-game, it is kinda useless.
Electivire @ ?????
Adamant, 252 Atk, some in speed, rest in HP
- Earthquake
- Cross Chop
- Thunderpunch
- Ice Punch
Adamant over Jolly because you'll get the speed you need when you switch in on a Thunderbolt. All it needs is some prediction. I chose Thunderpunch over Rock Slide only because it kills Pokémon like Suicune and Milotic and they can't Mirror Coat it back now. Cross Chop over BB/Fire Punch for killing annoying Blisseys/Snorlaxes/Regices/T-tars + it has a high critical hit ratio.
As for an item, Choice Band/Scarf, Life Orb, Muscle Band and Expert Belt may be useful.
Edit: Can somebody suggest a fourth move for my Gyarados in Emerald? It knows DD, EQ and Return and I don't know what else to use. If it was NetBattle, I would use Taunt, but in-game, it is kinda useless.
03-06-2007, 06:28 PM
Taunt is useful for battles with other people so put it in here.If you want to use that Gyarados in-game, then the moveset could be very different.
29-06-2007, 05:53 PM
i want to start training my shiny zubat but i dont know a good moveset. its jolly, and i know thats good. its goin to be for wifi, so i assume it should have haze and cross poison or aerial ace. would x-scissor be good to ko psychic types?
29-06-2007, 08:35 PM
Well it depends on your team.Would you like to use it as a sweeper, an annoyer or a toxic suffler...?
30-06-2007, 06:41 PM
probably a toxic shuffler. i have enough sweepers on my team
05-07-2007, 11:35 AM
You don't have to focus on sweeping moves then.It is a toxic shuffler so Toxic and Whirlwind are standar.You don't have to use haze because you have whirlwind.The next two moves also depend on the rest of your Pokemon.
05-07-2007, 04:24 PM
Well, I'm going to post one member of my team at a time so you can give me specific advice.
Charizard @ Quick Claw
Timid
-Blast Burn
-EQ
-Flamethrower
-Fly
Btw how can I find the EVs that I've given to a pokemon?
Charizard @ Quick Claw
Timid
-Blast Burn
-EQ
-Flamethrower
-Fly
Btw how can I find the EVs that I've given to a pokemon?
08-07-2007, 05:05 AM
Quick Claw is useless to Charizard, a fast pokemon. How about Leftovers or Lum Berry?
Don´t use Blast Burn. In the moment the opponent see that you´re using Charizard, they may switch out, and Blast Burn will trap you one turn, which the opponent may use to kill you effortlessly.
Well, I´ll analyze your Charizard like if you were talking about the advanced generation, I´m not too confident on DS generation yet.
I would try...
Timid@Lum Berry/Leftovers
- Flamethrower
- Dragon Claw
- Hidden Power (grass)
- Protect?
Of course, it´s a special sweeper. Flamethrower has STAB and is a good move anyways... Dragon Claw can cause some damage on dragons and Hidden Power covers all Charizard´s weaknesses. Unfortunately, Charizard has no great movepool for special sweeping on advanced generation.
If you wanna try a physical one:
Adamant@Salac Berry
- Belly Drum
- Substitute
- Aerial Ace/Hidden Power (flying)
- Fire Blast/Earthquake
This is a good strategy, which could kill me sometimes.
Subs first, for protecting somehow
, and with Belly Drum the next turn, your attack will be awesome, as well as your speed, with salac´s activation. Then... Enjoy your STABed hidden power/aerial ace or earthquake. Fire Blast is a good option too, because Charizard´s ability, Blaze will be activated, ignoring a little the fact of using a -SAtk nature. Because the nature hinders the SAtk I´m suggesting Fire Blast instead of Flamethrower.
Or this one:
Adamant@Lum Berry
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Aerial Ace/Hidden Power (flying)
- Fire Blast
A similar effect of the previous moveset, but with dragon dance instead of belly drum+substitute+salac berry. You decide which you like most.
For DS generation... I really don´t know... I still have no DS or D/P >.<

Don´t use Blast Burn. In the moment the opponent see that you´re using Charizard, they may switch out, and Blast Burn will trap you one turn, which the opponent may use to kill you effortlessly.
Well, I´ll analyze your Charizard like if you were talking about the advanced generation, I´m not too confident on DS generation yet.
I would try...
Timid@Lum Berry/Leftovers
- Flamethrower
- Dragon Claw
- Hidden Power (grass)
- Protect?
Of course, it´s a special sweeper. Flamethrower has STAB and is a good move anyways... Dragon Claw can cause some damage on dragons and Hidden Power covers all Charizard´s weaknesses. Unfortunately, Charizard has no great movepool for special sweeping on advanced generation.
If you wanna try a physical one:
Adamant@Salac Berry
- Belly Drum
- Substitute
- Aerial Ace/Hidden Power (flying)
- Fire Blast/Earthquake
This is a good strategy, which could kill me sometimes.


Or this one:
Adamant@Lum Berry
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Aerial Ace/Hidden Power (flying)
- Fire Blast
A similar effect of the previous moveset, but with dragon dance instead of belly drum+substitute+salac berry. You decide which you like most.

For DS generation... I really don´t know... I still have no DS or D/P >.<